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Old Nov 16, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31   #81
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(1) Kind of a Big Deal
(2) People Know Me
(3) I Have Many Leather Bound Books
(4) My Apartment Smells of Rich Mahogany
(5) I Like to go to Sea World and Take My Pants Off
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:10 AM // 08:10   #82
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(1) Kind of a Big Deal
(2) People Know Me
(3) I Have Many Leather Bound Books
(4) My Apartment Smells of Rich Mahogany
(5) I Like to go to Sea World and Take My Pants Off
Who told?!

Seriously, though, thanks to everyone for your votes and your comments. Please keep 'em coming!
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:16 AM // 08:16   #83
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I like the change, i have 150/190 Elites capped by now, and my head will blowup if when archieve the 190 the tittle dont count for the KOABD

Thax for hear the comunity Gaile... i love u (With my gf permision)

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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:20 AM // 08:20   #84
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I voted in favor of changing it.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:33 AM // 08:33   #85
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Skill Capture title should be an account based title and once you capture an elite skill you should be able to buy it at in towns for that campaign for 3 to 4 times the cost to purchase a skill on any character that doesnt already have it captured. A lot of people will disagree with this but having to take a newly created character through multiple campaigns and complete them just to capture one skill is crazy. Our heros know all the skills we have captured account wide, so it only makes sense if we can purchase elites that we have spent the time to capture with one character and not have to go through the process 2, 3 or even 9 times just to use the same elite on multiple PvE characters.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:41 AM // 08:41   #86
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As you may know, the Skill Hunter title in Guild Wars was designed to offer new tiers with the release of each campaign, so it doesn't ever max out.
Umm... No, I didn't know this. I was expecting to be able to max the Skill Hunter line in Nightfall since I read this:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10048851

Anyways, I am all for the idea of making the title campaign-specific. We should be able to max it. As for cheapening the KoaBD title, that happened as soon as Nightfall came out anyways. Each chapter brings new titles and thus it's easier to max 5. If KoaBD was the goal, then your new goal is People Know Me. After that, I'm Very Important, or whatever else ANet comes up with. FYI, I say "I'm Very Important" because that's the next line in the KoaBD and PKM sequence that these titles are taken from.

One question / issue that needs to be handled is how core skills are handled.

Also, more festival games. We need to max our AFK titles too, ya know...
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:54 AM // 08:54   #87
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I'd like all skillhunters and other repliers to post THEIR current eliteskill number and THEN vote instead of going with the 'majority' coz you don't have a mind of your own.
They'd best change the KoaBD title into CUT (Completely Useless Title) since everyone has it.
290 elites captured, only missing Ebon Dust Aura. I voted to split the titles.
It has been pointed out in this thread by many people (including myself) just how simple it is to get KoaBD and how this change will have no effect to the ease of gaining it.

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It really saddens me how many people vote yes 'becoz it was the most popluar answer'
Get an own opinion ffs.
Thats funny, I thought I was stating my opinion by voting...and I am pretty sure I didnt know what the popular answer was before i voted since it only shows the results AFTER you vote, and I only read Gailes original post before voting. Maybe you should edit your post to read "Vote NO because if you don't agree with my opinion you are wrong" instead of telling everyone that voted yes to "get an opinion".

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People with only Proph and Nightfall will have a never ever filled Factions title saying Canthan Skill hunter: 60/110 for instance
This situation could be handled if the title only showed up for the campaigns you actually owned. Example: you own Prophecies and Nightfall, you will not have the Factions title track show up when you cap a core elite. I am no programmer so not sure how hard it would be for this to work.

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Skill Hunter shows devotion towards the gametitle and seperating them gets rid of that
How does it get rid of showing devotion? With this new system you would have multiple titles showing devotion instead of just one that was never maxable.

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We've already got enuff half hanging titles and making such changes makes it even worse in the already hard to manage titles list with several unfilled things in it.
This is not a problem if you work on them and "fill them up". And what is so hard to manage about the list of titles? I mean how hard is it to scroll thru them? I know I have all but three titles started and it takes me a whole 3 seconds to get thru them, always feel like i need a shower and a nap after all that hard work!
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:25 AM // 09:25   #88
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I like the idea, and especially the "International Protector and Cartographer titles". Getting all three Cartographer titles is a nice achievement one should be able to show
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:33 AM // 09:33   #89
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campaign specific titles + core title. wich means nchapters+1 maxed titles
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:44 AM // 09:44   #90
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I am in favor of the change with 110 elite skills capped and counting (I recently started my quest for gaining them all), but what I also would like to see changed is the title screen. Give it a bit of a usability boost by dividing the titles over some extra tabs like 'PVE titles', 'PVP titles' and 'campaign-only titles'. It's not a real problem, but would make it a bit easier on the eyes.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:49 AM // 09:49   #91
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With more and more titles coming out can we get some sort of filter option for titles? For example Check to display all account based titles only, all character titles only, all titles.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:50 AM // 09:50   #92
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I am strongly in favor of this change. This is one of my favorite titles. It's the one I display on my monk all the time. I am currently up to level 4 of it and working toward level 5 as I go through Nightfall.

Currently, even those of us who have gotten the "max" available on this title get no credit toward Kind of a Big Deal--which it is! :grin:


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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54   #93
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Well it gives people who have... no... life more ways to get the title to get there "People Know Me" title, however why do people know them? because.. there always online.

Im in favor of this, more people to just look at and think.... "Im not the biggest geek out there"

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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:09 AM // 10:09   #94
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I'd rather not have everyone run around with KoaBD's. It just ends up lowering the variety of titles we see displayed by characters. Maybe make skill hunter contribute towards KoaBD when one acquires say, 240 elite skills, but can still go higher (like how sunspear points work i believe). That way, people can "max" the title but it won't result in everyone having KoaBD and someone who is running around with a level 7 chest title is laughed at for not having KoaBD (when imo a level 7 chest or wisdom title is MUCH harder than trying to get KoaBD or maybe even People know me if each campaign can result in 3 relatively easy titles- mission, cartographer, skills)

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Note: A lot of people are voting in favor of this because they are myopic and don't see that even though they may be getting more titles as a result, so will everyone else and will just result in a bunch of KoaBD discriminators. "LF More for mission + bonus must have KoaBD or PKM"

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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:18 AM // 10:18   #95
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
We're considering making that change, and we'd love to hear feedback from players, particularly those who are working hard to achieve the Skill Hunter or Kind of a Big Deal titles. Here's how a change might work:
  • We would phase out the existing Skill Hunter title, but replace it with three campaign-specific titles: Tyrian Skill Hunter, Canthan Skill Hunter, and Elonian Skill Hunter. Some people who had captured 90 elite skills or more but have not captured those 90 elite skills within any single campaign would lose their title. But everyone who enjoys working on this title track would gain access to three max-level titles, whereas currently the Skill Hunter title track has no max-level title.
  • For those who choose to pursue multiple regional titles--across all existing campaigns--we could add a snazzy "international" title, as well. For example, someone who had earned the titles Tyrian Skill Hunter, Canthan Skill Hunter, and Elonian Skill Hunter might also get the title International Skill Hunter. (As we introduce more campaigns, we'd introduce higher levels of the cross-campaign Skill Hunter title.)
  • At the same time, we could add cross-campaign titles for Cartographer and Protector, such as International Cartographer and International Protector. These would be awarded to players who had completed all three of the campaign-specific titles from those title tracks. We would of course be able to expand these title offerings with higher-level titles as new campaigns are released.
  • Adding three new max-level Skill Hunter titles would allow people to make additional progress towards the Kind of a Big Deal title track, and we may start seeing some players with the People Know Me title. Naturally, as the number of available max-level titles increases, we'll add more tiers on the combined-title track, beyond People Know Me.
So, the poll is above and we'd really like to hear from you. Please share your thoughts on the proposed changes.
wow that would be ace if Anet add that it (*hugs Anet* thanks Anet) epecially the idea of having the international campaign titles
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:21 AM // 10:21   #96
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Oh yea, like what Jamki said.

It cheapens the KoaBD title
So what??!? if thats all you care about, then thats pretty lame, personally Im not that fussed about KOABD, Id rather have titles split up, way more fun! If a lot people complain about the cheapness of KOABD, then maybe raise the amount of titles needed to achieve this...

Anyhow, bring it on is what i say!
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29   #97
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Note: A lot of people are voting in favor of this because they are myopic and don't see that even though they may be getting more titles as a result, so will everyone else and will just result in a bunch of KoaBD discriminators. "LF More for mission + bonus must have KoaBD or PKM"
You have got to be kidding me, right? You really think anyone [worth grouping with] is going to be advertising that? Well, that is, without joking.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:35 AM // 10:35   #98
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well. my vote would be yes: add campaign specific skill-hunter titles, but i don't want to see the "international" stuff, that is a bad idea i think. its kind of a mini-KoaBD title. where you have to max 3 (or 4 with the next chapter) titles in order to get another one. and on top of that this would count towards the KoaBD title as well.

a lot of the people who have KoaBD right now have it with master cartographer titles, protector titles, and skillhunter/treasure hunter/wisdom. I think it would be a bit stupid (and pointless) to add a second koabd-like title

so in conclusion, my vote goes for splitting up the skillhunter title, but against the international titles
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:47 AM // 10:47   #99
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Actually, no. All Anet employees, be it artists, programmers or cleaners, all work on the same problem at the same time. In fact, their building is just a long corridor with a PC at the end, and they all queue up in front of it and work on 'The Problem', moving to the back when they've had their go. They blink with one eye at a time, because seeing with two is cheating. Gaile has been hogging the PC so much with this title fiasco, chapter 4 is now cancelled.
best. quote. ever!

but anyway, I voted yes because at the end of the day whats the point of a title you can never max? Seems like a better idea to split it into titles that can be maxed and have those go towards a title that can never be maxed

but if this does go ahead can we get some change to the way titles are display? I dont even really go for titles but have about *100* unfinished titles and the LB title im going for at the mo is right at the bottom and theres no way to organise it or hide titles from another campaign to make it a bit easier to keep an eye on the title im after, just an idea (also make salvage and precious inscriptions stack! ...just thought id put that out there)
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:51 AM // 10:51   #100
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/Signed, because every title, except Kind of a Big Deal and those "international" titles, should be maxable.

Sure, this will make easier to gain the first level of KoaBD, but so what? If you want to feel more leet than an average hardcore PvE-player, then work for the third level of KoaBD, or maybe some other title, like Savior of the Kurzick/Luxons.

And saying everyone and their dog has KoaBD is BS. Come on. How many players have you seen with the KoaBD? I've seen thousands and thousands players and so far only 5-6 had the title. Half of them are known hardcore players and regular posters on here, Guru.

(This post was not directed to against anyone specific.)

EDIT: I've seen over 20 players with the KoaBD in the past week. However, I'm still supporting the change.

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